Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: cactus.org!milano!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!pacbell.com!network. + ucsd.edu!qualcom.qualcomm.com!chicago.qualcomm.com!karn From: karn@chicago.qualcomm.com (Phil Karn) Subject: Re: generating one-time pads Message-ID: <1992Jun19.074305.11826@qualcomm.com> Keywords: one-time pad, generation of Sender: news@qualcomm.com Nntp-Posting-Host: chicago.qualcomm.com Organization: Qualcomm, Inc References:Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1992 07:43:05 GMT Lines: 22 In article bill@hacktic.nl (Bill Squire) writes: >em@topgun.ucsb.edu (Mehlschau;Ed;;;;CCSE;CCSE-Staff;990630;;;CCSE-Operations;50 0 writes: >> No jokes about audio DAC's connected to radios tuned to unused >> parts of the spectrum please... :-> >> >Whats wrong with that method? Yes, what *is* wrong with that method? If you're careful, it can certainly produce good random numbers. You know it's getting easier all the time to find off the shelf hardware to do these sorts of things. Recently I bought a Media Vision ProAudio 16 sound card for my PC. It includes stereo 44.1 Khz *16* bit (i.e., CD quality) A/D and D/A converters. I bought it at Fry's Electronics so I paid more than I should have, but it was still only about $270. Connect one of these things up to an FM receiver and digitize some noise and I'm sure you could extract some high quality random numbers from the low-order bits of the noise samples. Phil